Ssj3vegito96

Apr 25 2016, 05:41 PM

This is putting transgenders at risk too though isn't it? It's like 60 or 65% of transgenders get sexually assaulted in their life time. Yet you want to put women in male bathrooms because they identify as a man. You're raising their risk of getting assaulted even more

There's already been cases of men going into women's changing rooms pretending to be transgender. Idk I don't like to give people too much benefit of the doubt. I just don't want people taking advantage of this loophole

Ssj3vegito96

Apr 25 2016, 05:41 PM

This is putting transgenders at risk too though isn't it? It's like 60 or 65% of transgenders get sexually assaulted in their life time. Yet you want to put women in male bathrooms because they identify as a man. You're raising their risk of getting assaulted even more

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There's already been cases of men going into women's changing rooms pretending to be transgender.

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"There have not been any public safety issues" in cities that allow transgender people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as.

-- Equality NC Director Chris Sgro

We rated that claim Mostly True. Sgro said that although opponents of transgender-friendly bathroom laws often cite fears of sexual predators, those fears aren’t based in fact.

We searched far and wide for examples that fit three categories: 1. someone convicted of committing a sex crime AND 2. in the opposite gender’s bathroom or locker room AND 3. in a place that lets transgender people use the bathroom they feel most comfortable with.

We couldn’t find any in the United States, and conservative groups also couldn’t point to any. There have been a few recent allegations, and we gave some weight to those, but people in America are considered innocent until proven guilty. We also found one case of a Canadian who took advantage of transgender-friendly rules in Toronto to commit rape and has been convicted, facing life in prison.

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Idk I don't like to give people too much benefit of the doubt. I just don't want people taking advantage of this loophole

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Originally, I hadn’t planned on posting about the Target bathroom policy at all. I saw so many people talking about it already, and I didn’t think it deserved all the media attention and backlash it got. But now it’s becoming a problem for me because the arguments I see against it aren’t even about transgender rights. The majority of the population has done what they always do yet again—they’ve made it about themselves. To be specific, many people insist on denying the transgender community basic rights, safety, and acceptance due to the crimes that an entirely different group of people commit.

We are holding back progress for the trans community just because we are afraid that men will use this as an opportunity to exert violence and dominance over women. Why do we care what bathroom a transwoman uses? We are punishing transgender women even though there are currently no cases of transwomen assaulting girls in public bathrooms. And get this: 99% of reported rapists are heterosexual men. Clearly we should be talking more about why men rape women and why we as a society are so afraid of sending grown men into public restrooms with girls. The problem isn't that Target has shown their support for the transgender community. The problem is that we as a society are afraid of men and women being alone together (even in a public, nonsexual place) because rape and sexual assault against women are a frequent, normalized occurrence in our culture. Do I think that a rapist would actually choose the women's restroom in Target as an ideal place to hunt for a victim? No, of course not. People are grasping at straws with this one. But it has become very clear to me that these arguments against Target's bathroom policy are misplaced. We should not be preventing transwomen from peeing with other women simply because we are afraid of men. We should be attacking the aspects of our culture that make sexual assault so rampant rather than attacking people that have nothing to do with it.

I visited a Target bathroom today. I used the toilet, stood around for a few minutes, took a selfie in the mirror, and left. During that span of about five minutes or so, no one hurt me. I didn’t see any big, burly men in the restroom with me. I didn’t see anyone peeking over the stall at me. And I wasn’t afraid. I wasn’t afraid of being assaulted because I was in a public space in a public store where I don’t think any pedophile or rapist would actually come for his or her victims. My main argument is that allowing transgender women access to the women’s restroom in Target changes nothing for the majority of the population, and if you think that it does and still insist on making it about yourself, maybe you should attack rape culture instead of attacking and hindering transgender acceptance. I think I've made it very clear in this post that Target and the trans community are not the issue here.

Pelador

Apr 25 2016, 02:44 AM

I personally believe you have to be trolling due to the sheer stupidity of your argument but I'll take the bait.

I think the sex offender argument is a s***ty excuse to be bigoted. You really think a sex offender is going to pretend to be transgender just to try and assault people in a public toilet? It's a paper thin argument invented to cover up hatred. It's connected with the very wrong idea that homosexuals and paedophiles are the same thing.

I feel I should also lecture you on empathy. Put yourself in the shoes of a person who in their mind is one gender but is physically the opposite. But you're not allowed to use a toilet for the gender you identify with. Instead you must be content with the awkward feeling of using the other one. If I was forced to use the girl's toilets I'd feel really creepy about it. Like I just didn't belong in there. And because of this silly notion that a bunch of creeps are going to cross dress to do what exactly? Peep under the stalls? You're forced to feel like a creeper for something that's probably never going to even happen. Get the f*** out of here with that bulls***. If I want to peep on people, I don't need a dress and a wig. A shoe camera or a camera phone are more than enough. Look at my avatar, I know a thing or two about genuine creeping and it doesn't involve sneaking into women's toilets.